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One Disciple to Another - the Original Jesus   (Joshua)

Is God the author of confusion? 

 

 

 

 

Are we able to just pause a bit to observe  ourselves? Who are we really?  Do we support those who believe and obey God?  Or are we against those who do so?  Have we have been taught the Bible is a record of human history from the beginning, and that we can trust what it says to the highest level of certainty?  Most people are unaware that there was no "Bible" for thousands of years after the events contained therein, and that it is now proven to be far more unreliable than told.  Any book written 2500 years after an event is highly unlikely to tell events that really happened.   

In observing ancient cultures, whether of China, India, Assyria, Babylon, Egypt, Persia, Greece, or Rome - or of numerous cultures such as native Americans, it was common to have developed stories of origins and cultural myths that were handed down - written and unwritten - to their posterity as part of their culture, each having something unique in its telling.  Some events were shared by other cultures, such as flood myths, that were passed down from the most ancient cultural memories.

Cultural, or National myths may include beliefs, traditions, rites, and rituals.  These cultures have also had impact on others.  An example is the Greeks started the science of thought and reason with Plato and Aristotle.  Judaism of laws, rites and rituals, culminating in a base text later on that we call the Hebrew "scriptures".   Few have written about it, but Plato also wrote of Laws, and what he deemed to be the best foundation for a people, and this remarkably just preceeded the formulation of the Hebrew accounts we have as our Old Testament.  To date (2025), no one has proven any of the Hebrew account predates 250 BC, when the oldest texts of the Dead Sea Scrolls purport to date.  Ages of findings near Quamran have generally been accepted to date between 250 BC to 70 CE, just prior to the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem.  Some think many of the scrolls may have been from the Temple library, and they also contain some early Christian writings.  This fact was withheld from our knowledge for 50 - 70 years. 

Michael Savage had a program on the radio called ‘Savage Nation'; often he spoke of those trying to change our culture in negative ways, especially regarding the USA.  He summed up the definition of a nation being defined by three things: Boarder, Language, and Culture.  Each nation could be identified by those three criteria - and I think he was right, and many others agreed. 

History is told by the victor, and seldom presents a balanced view, excepting in more academic circles that are not commonly understood, or heard from by the general populous.  What one is taught in a college or seminary is much different than what is taught and explored at a University level.  University's level of knowledge also varies, and most have guiding hands to control what is and is not studied or written about.  Some top scholars have been "reassigned" for daring to write about things that expose too much - an example might be of Idan Dershowitz, after publishing ‘The Valediction of Moses' - translation of a purported ancient account one might term "proto- Deuteronomy", as the account shows what we now have may not be what came before (from 3 pages to 34 chapters).  It should be observed that we have less than one third of the Standards given at Mt. Sinai, and that Elohim said he is god of gods, not the only god.

Another example is that Universities having faith based roots, such as Pepperdine, David Lipscomb, Oral Roberts, or Chapel Hill - when they have an active Seminary education department, it is not likely they will promote studies that might undermine their own interests and support bases.  It is uncommon that Chapel Hill had staff such as Bart Ehrman, who wrote extensively on evidence and reason that questioned the veracity of the Bible - as beliefs  about religions are one of the main reasons the USA came to be reality - that people be free to have their own beliefs, rather than the Church/State dictating what a person could believe. 

On the other hand, we have records of some nations expressly prohibiting religious beliefs, and some to this day prohibit Christianity, and in some places it is said that possession of a Bible is a crime.  To a casual observer in the USA this may seem highly oppressive, but in historical reality, many great wars and destruction of nations and society have stemmed from religious beliefs conflicts, such as RCC Crusades and Colonial expansion of their empire to the earth - including the lands now in the  USA!  What crimes were done by the native American Indians to the Church of Rome?  The historical fact is that Rome usurped the variant forms of "Christianity" to then take control of the nations and demand they are the supreme authority for religion and appointing kings over the earth, which has nothing to do with what was taught by Jesus. 

Although founded upon religious freedom - to be allowed to worship according to your own conscience and beliefs, the control of what those elements that develop the conscience and belief of any particular person are, were based on RCC doctrine, then Protestant doctrine, then fracturing into thousands of variant doctrines that might be developed from a highly contradictory text we have in our Bible - of which have developed many different "translations" or "versions" - most famous of which is the King James Version, which has morphed throughout its history, and had largely borrowed from Tyndale, whom they killed and burned at the stake for daring to translate the "Bible" so people might be able to read it for themselves, rather than being totally reliant upon a church with questionable motives, morality, and honesty.  A recent example is their new translation is the only one found to have corrected Isaiah 7:14 "virgin" to show it was not a virgin, but a young woman who was already pregnant (wife of Isaiah) - even though they have not changed any of their beliefs about The Virgin Mary. 

The Bible is an unholy mess, but still contains much good if we gather our senses and consciences to observe what came before and realize what we have has been contaminated with massive contradictions - but we must open our eyes, ears, and hearts to discern the difference between what is upright and reasonable, from that which is not upright, faithful, or true.  We must be prepared to face the truth - we have been divided by lies in the name of God that were told by those who came before us.  If we observe what is upright, and then allow that truth to soak in our conscience long enough, we will be more than able to hold fast to what is good, and let go of the bad ideas given to us by those we never knew - but were told to believe - and stop being willfully blinded. 

When you see and observe the true light of life - the reasonable cause and effect truths given to start with - you may well be amazed you didn't see it before!

I can say this is possible because if I could do it - it is possible for others to do likewise.  Having been raised in one of the Churches that believed theirs was the only "true" Church on earth, the only one that sought to be "New Testament Christians", and devoid of the "Doctrines of Denominationalism" that divided everyone else!  It took me nearly a lifetime to see and understand how far "we" were from that initial goal, and that my own Church had abandoned both its roots and its goal.  It took far too long to finally realize we have contradictory "Scriptures" because what we have has first been altered from what it was, and second, books were included as Scripture that would have better remained in the dust of the earth, or to have never been believed true to start with.  The primary author of Christian Scripture that should be questioned is one of the most beloved and regarded - the "apostle to the gentiles - Saul/Paul."  After much study and failures, I finally realized he was what his writings said he was, both a "wretched man" and a "liar" - by his own confession, everyone had abandoned him at his first defense - and never heard from again.  (2 Timoty 4:16 - 19)  Paul was rejected by all the original disciples of Jesus for more than 300 years, and his books were put into our "Bible" records by Rome - not God, Jesus, or the original disciples of Jesus.  Another viewpoint recently written about is that "Paul" never existed and was invented later, and others have reason to believe there were three "Paul"s, not one.  Studies are showing reason to believe much of what we have as our "Bible" is largely invented texts and myths, with little value to those who sincerely believe every word of it is true and Divine.  Look to the evils done by "Israel" today, and how much they are akin to the Roman Colonialization of the world from 1400 - 1800.  God said He gave us Instructions to live uprightly with equity and justice, not domination, oppression, theft, murder, raping lands and peoples, and also inventing lies about others to justify the evils done to them.

Regarding beginnings, the Hebrew scripture tells their story, and given so many have believed it literal, it has struck cords in the hearts of many to have value.  We should initially be advised to be very careful about how you weigh any of the contents therein, as so much of it is nothing but national mythology, or was put in the book to deceive away from the good it contains (to obscure seeing the reasonable and observable truth).

One of the biggest differences between Judaism and Christianity is the Christian Doctrine of the "Fall of man" in Eden.  It may surprise you to realize in the Hebrew account God told Cain, before he killed his brother: "Why is your countenance fallen?  Surely, if you improve yourself, you will be forgiven (elevated).  Sin rests at the door, its desire is towards you, yet you can conquer it."  This addresses the fact that there was no "fall" that causes all mankind to be hopelessly degenerate and incapable to do good, or that we were created to become better people!  In fact, there are many examples in the Hebrew Scripture to show that when we cease what is evil, then replace bad behaviors with good behaviors, we do in fact elevate ourselves.  We can improve ourselves throughout our lives, just as we are capable to learn more in school, we are able to learn more in our life if we are paying attention to the things that really matter to mankind, especially if it regards equity, truth, justice, and a basic Standard for human behavior - such were the Sinai Covenant Standards found from perhaps 3000 years ago - which included the decrees, the blessings, and the curses. 

Behaviors amongst mankind were the focus of the Covenant - not rites, rituals, or traditions!  Whether you believe God gave them, or not, the fact is they provide what is perhaps the best definition of cause-and-effect behaviors that should regulate any reasonable person or society!  None of them are a stretch to believe and understand.  Unlike the Trinity Doctrine, which has to be based upon faith, as no one has been able to reasonably justify it since its inception.  Neither does it make sense to think Jesus taught John 3:16 as a do all passage, and the chapter ends with him telling that those who believe in him will do what he said to do - and John doesn't even give an accounting of the founding sermon of Jesus: The Sermon on the Mount!  These huge cracks are direct evidence that Doctrines of Judaism and Christianity are fatally flawed and are the source of our problems (fall of man is a false doctrine, the Decrees are about how we are to live, not just believe, and the rites, rituals, and traditions of Judaism and Christianity serve no good to be prove we believe God or desire to ‘live justly and love mercy" - and that we are perfectly able to discern between good and evil.  Quotes from

Malachi 3:16 - 18, Dead Sea Scrolls Bible:

 

"Then those who feared the LORD spoke one to another, and the LORD listened, and heard, and a book of remembrance was written before him, for those who feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.  So that they shall be mine, says the LORD of hosts, even my own possession, in the day that I make [the Day of the LORD - judgment day?]; and I will spare them, as a man spares his own son that serves him.  Then you will again distinguish between the righteous and the wicked, between the one who serves God and the one who serves him not."

 

 

 

 

Judaism in Jesus' days had ignored what Elohim decreed and covenanted with them at Sinai, and the fact is now known that near 550 BC the Jewish Temple in Elephantine Egypt was writing to those at the Temple in Jerusalem in hopes to also get support to rebuild their Temple in Egypt.  We have hundreds of records from them.  There was no mention of the Ten Commandments, Moses, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Solomon, or any of the famous characters we find in our current accounts of their history.  Evidently there was no instruction about only having one temple at which to serve - and we have reason to believe there were other temples of Yahwism at that time.  How do we know this?  Studies related to archeology throughout the ancient area from Egypt through Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, and finally Rome - have provided direct evidence what Genesis and Exodus present as world history - is a total work of fiction and lore - nothing more.  For example, during the period of time the Exodus took place - Moses could not have escaped Egypt to found Israel, as the entire area of Israel was in complete control of Egypt, who also had military outposts there and gathered tribute from the peoples to go to Egypt.  It could not have happened as told - so what we have in our "Bible" as the foundation of murder and stealing to gain their land - has no basis in truth - or to have been the will of "God" (Elohim, or YHWH).  Think a minute - why would a totally upright and just God tell them to do what He had just told them to not do - because it was "Evil" and "Cursed" behavior that He prohibited them from doing????  Also, further studies have shown good reason to know "El" was the god of the nations in the area - long before Israel purports to come to the ‘land of promise'.  "El" was god of nations more than 1000 years before Israel, and rather than being ignorant and totally evil - they certainly knew it was important to serve El and live honest and just lives - unlike what we see in Judaism from its inception, and from its own records of the Torah, Tanach, or oral torah of the rabbe.  Dare to read "The Strange Gods of Judaism" and (free .pdf download available) "Yahwism in the Achaemenid Empire") - proof we have ALL been lied to about Judaism and God.

Careful study reveals that Judaism began with the account told in Nehemiah 10 of the discovery of the scroll of Moses in the Temple, and the account goes on to tell those specifically reported to have signed on to the tale, and purports to have been dated historically to 444 BC.  The trouble is we now know records of the "Torah" have not been found before the records discovered with the Dead Sea Scrolls, which also date to a time that lends to believe as others had written lore about their national origins - such as Greece and Rome - that when Judaic scholars read the accounts in the Library of Alexandrea, they were motivated to write a peculiar national history for "Israel", to give encouragement to a people who had never had any success as a people because throughout their history they were consistently being over-run by nations that were far greater than themselves.  These nations can be found in their account, but not telling the basic fact that they had no great united kingdom under Saul, David, or Solomon - inventions of lore - nothing more?  For example, Solomon was said to have had numerous wives from surrounding nations - but their accounts have absolutely no record of these marriages - or even of Solomon himself!  Zippo - Nada - Nothing.  Experts in the field of study have shown much was borrowed from accounts that pre-dated their efforts - although a new take, to nationalize the history of Isreal to show more humanity and relationship to Elohim (El), and to also tell nothing of their previous history or that they were primarily worshipping three gods at the time of David and Solomon - not one grand Temple that was dedicated to Elohim, who was later identified as YHWH - the sacred "NAME".  It is easy to observe the patently absurd tales therein, if we have both our eyes open when reading it.  One example is why would God tell Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac, and then a later prophet has God saying that He abhorred those who sacrificed their children, and that no such thing had ever entered His mind - and that He all but hated enduring ‘their convocations' of the rites and rituals we find in Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy.  One piece of evidence is ‘the Shapira scrolls' that show proto- Deuteronomy used to be three pages, not 34 chapters!  God warned them He knew of ‘the schemes you devise' - and that at the end, their children would know what He had told them.  Well, it was published by both a Jewish (Idan Dershowitz) and Christian (Ross Nichols) authors in 2021 - but very few people dare to speak directly about it as I do in these writings.

History of the Christian Canon shows the disciples wrote a collective account to provide their testimony of Jesus and what he had taught them.  This is what we now call "Matthew", and was accepted to have historical roots to before 40 CE.  In fact, it was known to be accepted by the Jewish disciples throughout their history, and that they did not accept anything from Paul - they worked to correct the disciples of Paul for at least 300 years, and some of the records might be found in the Dead Sea Scrolls records, and Israel Finkelstein wrote some about it in his book on early  Christian writings in the DSS.  Although Rome altered Matthew to sew in a few things to make it more compatible with Paul and the other gospels - if we simply use the original Matthew, as most likely written by the disciples of Jesus - there would not be such confusion, contradictions, or evils based upon doctrines from the Pope, Paul, or any Council of men.  Truth, thankfully, is easily observed, and is totally reasonable and filled with common sense.

By the 300's AD the Roman church was consolidating variant branches of "Christianity" under one roof that it could control, which largely started with the Council of Nicaea.  Over time it gathered texts from the variant groups and incorporated many  of them into what we have as our New Testament, but they were variant, not in total agreement.  Jesus' apostles group controlled Jerusalem, Paul influenced a number of places were non-Jews, those not knowing the Hebrew Scriptures, could be taught things that simply were not true or according to the Hebrew records. 

One glaring example to decide what is true:  What does the Covenant Law of Sinai have to do with the Hebrews versus the non-Hebrew Greeks and Romans?  Jesus said to live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God - the most famous of which are the words He spoke to everyone present at Sinai - Hebrews and those of a ‘multitued of nations.'  The given Standards were for everyone - Hebrews and all other nations.  The Standards state that we serve God, largely, by equitable and fair behavior, and doing no evil - that our relationship to God is seen in how we treat our fellow man.  They were given to observe to do them, not as a matter of faith alone.  In the same "New Testament" Paul said it was not God who gave the Covenant Decrees (Law), and that it was given by lowly angels or elementals who are no god.  Paul also said the Law causes sin, as without his knowing the Law said not to covet, then caused him to covet, when before he had no desire to do so - that the Law caused him to sin, and that in his spirit he served God, but in his flesh, sin, followed by "wretched man that I am, who can deliver me from the Law of sin and death?!"  Honestly - really, honestly - who really believes Paul can be proven to have been teaching the same message Jesus, God, or any of the Pslams and Prophets gave in the Hebrew accounts?

Paul did teach some things that seem to make sense - such as the Holy Spirit can be seen in love, joy, peace, and a sound mind.  The problem is God defined what a sound mind really is in the Covenant Standards, that Paul said were given as a curse to Israel - not a blessing for the entire earth - for all of mankind - that it is honorable to keep the Covenant Standards - Isaiah 42 and 56.

Paul also taught the Law was done away with - nailed to the cross.  Jesus taught the Law was everlasting - as Elohim had said - and that we not even think he came to loosen it or do away with it.  Have we all grown so dull as to read Matthew and the gospels and then forget what Jesus taught by the time we try to grasp what Paul taught in his many varied accounts?  Rome did "Christianity" no favor to adopt Paul's writings to be part of the "New Testament" - instead they poisoned the well of what Elohim gave through the life and testimony of Jesus.

I'm writing this from a lay-person perspective, not as a church authority - but the facts of the matter are now known, and Christian Apologetics has been in denial of the facts since they started being revealed, and I'm passing this on because I believe we need to know those who we trusted to tell us the real truth have not been true to any trust we placed with them - some by neglect of our personal responsibility, some by neglect of their appointed responsibilities.  These are some books you can read that substantiate these reported facts:

One Disciple to Another - the Original Jesus; Romans proves Paul Lied, have we inherited lies from our fathers?;

Books by top level scholarship: Why the Bible Began; The Origins of Judaism; The Valediction of Moses; The Moses Scroll; The Dismembered Bible; Yahwism in the Achaemenid Empire; Misquoting Jesus (Bart Ehrman has many books); Jesus' Words Only; Let's Get Biblical - volumes 1 and 2; The Atheist Bible - volumes 1 and 2;

Youtube channels with guests to discuss matters

History Valley - Jacob Berman

Gnostic Informant

Jesus Words Only - Douglas DelTondo

MythVision - Derek Lambert

There are likely others, but these do have needful content, at least they are pointing to things we should consider - because the matters have been denied by all Church authorities to this day.  If belief matters, if what we do matters, if faith matters - how can trusting in lies come to any good end, or be blessed by God?  Three quotes:

"Choose life you may live!" and "Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you." And "My people perish for lack of knowledge."

With such a God as this, what plea can excuse you from your personal responsibility for your own words and deeds - where did God ever say what Paul taught?  No where.


 

 

 

 


 

Jesus lifts Peter out of the waves
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He also saves us in the waves life brings our way